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- ARCADE, ENTERTAINMENT
- Alaskan Artist - Ocean Inspired Album Cover
- I'm looking for a logo for a podcast whose interviewees are people in the public eye crushing life
- Sports logo for the passionate Rugby Supporters around the world
- Erstelle ein Logo für eine exlusive Partyreihe
- Logo for young, signed, female country artist.
- Christmas Amusement Park Logo Design
- Looking for fun, sexy, sassy logo for a romance writer.
- Cool production company needs a modern & fresh update on our awesome logo
- Horses
- Frankie Films - a video production company https://frankiefilms.com.au/
- Nintendo-killer logo that inspires fire, spirit, communion, and games
- Experience Website Logo Design
- Little White Cabin
- Logo Design für ein innovatives Werbetechnik Unternehmen - modern und minimalistisch
- "Angel On My Shoulder"
- Design a sexy logo for a production company
- Poster for free walking tour
- Create a hot hip hop producer logo for "BIG REEP PRODUCTIONS"
- Band Logo
- Design a new kick ass logo for the new activities for Balloonboy
- TPO Contest for a Bold Imaginative Logo for a new bold company
- Design a fun company logo!
- I need a playful logo that portrays adventure in the music making process, or in the studio.
- New Orleans Jazz Crawl
- Dr Quark's Scientific Circus needs a catchy logo
- Logo for a 44 feet catamaran
- The Boat Show music compilation
- Design a creative logo for STONEHENGE - a FILM PRODUCTION company
- From Nothing To Something
- Diseña un logo para Dance & Coffee, que muestre una Cafeteria con Escuela de Baile
- DJ Logo Design! **PLEASE READ BRIEF!! I WANT THE T SLIGHTLY BENT!!** :)
- Streaming TV Network needs a powerful logo
- Balloon & Body Paint company seeks dope logo
- Create an illuminating, album cover like the design I sent in for everyone to do their take for a graphic design.
- Create the logo for the next Star Wars
- Design a poster for our play!
- Film It 4 Fun Logo
- Need a standout flat logo for a Recording Studio
- Create a Great Popular Dance, Hip-Hop & Soundtrack Music Album Cover for a Producer!
- Design a logo for the new app showground. Looking for designers to work with after more funding.
- POST CARDS
- REDISEÑAR LOGOTIPO
- Create a timeless logo for a music website!
- Design a logo for BALLET APPARELS
- Design a fun logo for kids youtube channel
- Design a fun logo for kids youtube channel
- Trilogy Typography
- Make a HILARIOUS picture for a green screen!
- striking logo and font wanted for sports promotional company
- Design a logo for Rock God Assistants!!!
- Logo - Book Publishing Company
- New Film Sound Studio needs unique logo
- Awesome logo design for an amazing show biz startup!
- YouTube adventure sailing channel Logo - Free Range Sailing
- Escape room designs inspired by mirror's edge
- Logo for award winning creative video production company
- Cool Vegans! Taking this to another level!
- Social media video app needs a fresh logo.
- Design an Eye Catching Home Page for Event Ticketing Company
- Design an "abstract mark" for ROOTS Academy
- Show Me Your Talent!
- Toy Design Company - Frankenstein's Lab - Robotic Butterfly
- New publisher needs a logo
- Create a powerful album cover for recording artist K. Sparks
- Gizmo needs an attractive logo with best theme that matches to gizmo
- 99nonprofit Winner! Design a captivating and sexy image for an original burlesque musical
- Create a unique logo for (Design Dynasty LTD) a startup print & digital design agency. See visual reference attached.
- Custom Logo Design for Iconic Tourist Attraction in Gatlinburg, TN
- Design an awesome logo for MicDrop
- Blues is life Itself, your illustration will help us to promote the Blues world-wide
- Character design for 2D Animation
- Create the official poster for WWI film 'Hymn of Hate' starring Russell Tovey and Thomas Turgoose.
- Design a simple but attractive logo for an escape room business!
- CW Television Station needs a weekend "sports" entertainment logo
- GOOD VIBES ONLY
- Feminist Digital Media Team Needs Logo
- Design logo for TheChecklist city listing mobile app
- Nightclub logo design everyone will see nationwide!!
- Dance Music Artist needs eye catching new logo!
- Movie Studio Layout
- Logo for UK rap artist
- I'm a Cop, I'm a YouTuber, I'm not an Artist...
- Design a Modern & Minimal Logo with Chinese Characters
- Ignite Your Light Retreat & Tour with Ben Lee, Jessie Reimers & Brad Yates Social Media Pack
- Icons für Kreativ Eventagentur
- Production Company TV and film logo
- Trendy blog
- Disturbing Poster Design
- Design a Stylish Movie Poster for a Beautiful Little Film
- Structural Damage Poster
- Event Logo
- YOUTUBE BANNER FOR UPCOMING YOUTUBER
- UAMG
- Create character for Karaoke video
- Fun project for new lifestyle/party brand - LOGO
- Design a logo for a new TV channel about pranks and comedy
- Craft the next generation of: THE GO GIVERS!!
- KMRS Morris
- KKOK
- Design a logo for a travel and adventure video company
- Psychic Entertainment Design needed
- Design Creative Logo For Recording Studio
- Lets have some FUN with Youth Ninja Field Day Fun Run Music Logo
- Well known YouTube channel needs new logo!
- YouTube Vlogger Needs a Logo
- Midichiefs needs a bangin' logo to set us apart visually!
- Album Cover art for country music artist
- Broadcast company logo
- Design an eye popping logo for a photo booth company
- Gig Calls Logo
- Ezekiel17 Tree
- Design a Website Page for a Production Company
- Logo Design for Napa Live Music
- Design lit logo for new dance studio!
- Create a mascot with character for an online program!
- MOVIE PRODUCTION company needs a new logo!
- Ibiza DJ Academy
- Design a whimsical, irreverent fairy illustration for a t-shirt
- Club EDM DJ needs a solid logo
- Fun 8bit cover & social media banners for our #POOLIGANS podcast!
- Logo for a kids adventure show (ages 2-10)
- Facebook event page picture
- Logo design for punk-rock band
- 11 Year Old Female Singer Needs Her First Logo
- Design a fun/professional "That Girl" logo for radio DJ
- Special design for our 20th Anniversary logo!
- Speaches and Music for saying goodbye
- BFunk North America Tour Flyer
- Event promotion company needs creative / appealing / mainstream modern LOGO and badge design.
- MCMLXXIV
- Fancy hippies need a great logo
- Erstellung einer Karikatur
- Design a logo for inlinetv.com the #1 IPTV provider
- WINE EDUCATION
- Professional yet trendy logo needed for new screenwriting website
- Female Singer-Guitarist needs an AWESOME Logo!
- Design a logo for a recording studio with a evil/angry goat or sheep, possibly giving you the finger
- Create a logo with a HAMSTER for an Electronic Dance Music artist!
- Create a game icon worthy enough to stand out in a very competitive game market.
- imaginary topographic map for cd front cover
- Make History With a Landmark Music Project
- Create a clean, modern design for a referral code sharing site
- Podcast Cover Art Design
- Create a logo for a film production specializing in emotions
- Redesign of brochure for film studio
- Amadeus Sheet Music - Help us with our online personality!
- Design a welcoming logo for an inspiring online community!
- Create "BUZZ" with a logo for a video company!
- Polish our TUBAS and give TubaStudio.com a Fresh Look!
- Keep it reel
- Personal branding for Captain Dave
- Fireworks & Firearms
- Logo design for new music artist project
- Create a creative and modern logo for ballet company
- Create a classy logo that stands out for mirror photo booth called "Red Carpet Reflections LLC"!
- We need a fresh, urban, and sophisticated logo that inspires and motivates people to reach their max potential.
- Create a Fresh & Fun Design for Chalk Markers
- Hangin’ with denny
- Design a creative double-meaning logo for doubleWordPlay
- Movie Production Company logo
- New Youtube gaming channel is in need of a attractive new logo
- Conscious Recording Artist logo
- CD artwork for two singles (one cd). Should be super simple and you have complete artistic freedom
- Top music company needs a powerful new logo - vintage inspired
- Colten Racing Logo Contest
- Up and Coming Hip Hop/Rock Fusion Band Needs Logo
- Logo for teen hip hop artist/ lyricist
- *CREATIVITY WANTED
- Famous Austin Radio Show needs cool logo for the city's best listeners!
- Where Hollywood meets games and we need a business card to show that.
- John Wells Productions
- Stilvolles Logo in Pastellfarben gesucht
- Immersive Design Studio and Co-op needs a slick logo!
- Design a modern logo for RavenWorks Entertainment
- Voice Actor Seeking Playful Logo
- Single Cover Art Design Wanted for Electronic Music Song Release
- The Rage - Supernatural Action Film
- Powerful Logo needed for stunt company working on feature films such as Star Wars, Wonder Woman etc....
- Connect with your inner child... fun & colorful logo needed!
- Logo and Brand Identity - New Music Label - Music For Movie Trailers
- Single Page Addition To Our Existing Website (Anthem One Lighting System)
- Logo/Font- Music Monkey- Music App!
- Family Band - Needs your design
- Design a new logo for a Hollywood film school
- Futuristic Anime-style logo for CryptoBeasties online game
- Business Card for Music Industry
- Logo Design - Flying Virtual Reality Experience
- TSMA Consulting & Management Company Flyer
- Design a fantasy logo for a live stream
- Erstelle ein freches Marken Logo für "Becher Fritze"
- cultural center
- Jakota Wass Country Music Performer Identity
- Entertainment PR Firm looking for Simple New Logo
- The the official website for the "INSPIRE" Network needs a LOGO - to be used in TV, Digital, Print (be original)
- DC 45th Anniversary Season
- New cafe and bar menu for Seven Ten Split Bowling
- Techno, Sunsets, 1980's, Palm Trees, Sunglasses & Synth Wave
- Be Fearless stickers
- Good Karma Films
- create something strong and vintage
- Logo Design for Upstart Record Label with Big Potential
- LA based concert and performance art startup looking for unique captivating logo and identity
- Design a logo for biggest competition of Buzzfeed, Bored Panda, Huff post
- Stylized Wolf Head Logo Re-Design
- Creative Logo For Creative's By Creatives!
- A Creative Pianist from NH
- Haunted House needs and edgy and clean logo
- Design a fun but professional logo for music festival company Colorimetry, Inc.
- Inverse your thinking - innovative web design for innovative studio!
- Let's Party!! Event Management Design
- Help me create a new look and feel for my Tarot business!
- Cover art for new podcast
- Design a cute/quirky/modern unicorn themed party set
- World Famous City Needs a Logo!!!
- Instagrammable Event
- "Create the ultimate urban party adventure for Cancun Jumpoff"
- Toy Fama, necesita imagen!
- Adventure Film Title - Lost Treasure of Jesse James
- Create a cool and timeless logo for Deep Dive VR
- Drag Queen needs glamourous yet dark and edgy logo
- Create a logo for a StarWars Podcast!
- Design a Fun Twitch.tv Streamer Service Logo
- Monkeyard needs you! Design our future
- Film Company Logo design
- Stand by Your Van Tour design contest
- Fresh Logo Redesign for Bahama Jeff Media Creative Agency
- Jake Durkin & Co.
- CrankGameplays T-Shirt Logo
- Create a custom logo for The Arc recording studios in Los Angeles
- Create a fun logo for The Nerdz Corner
- Movie Poster Redesign
- BackTrax needs a new logo to go with a big app update
- Help Brand Our Hip Hop Recording Label - High Chief Entertainment
- Finalize our Independent Film Poster for "Tomorrow"
- Design my film company logo based in the Queen City Charlotte Nc. Crow
- Veranstaltungstechnik braucht frisches CI
- Design a logo for light show production company Light Balance
- The American Dream TV Real Estate Show
- Folk Rock/American singer/songwriter needs a rustic-style logo
- Innovation & Society Podcast Cover Art
- Design A Logo For A New Live Trivia App!
- Design a cool logo for a Berlin based record label
- Design a beautiful, colorful icon for a Reverse Video app
- New England Logo
- Create a musical masterpiece logo and website for Musical Moments Studio
- Cover for Hard Science Fiction Novel
- LEGO Modellbau sucht Logo.
- Design a Hip Hop Album!
- Social Media Brand in need of new logo & website
- Meta logo design for a podcast you'd probably enjoy listening to!
- Poster for Apocalyptic sci fi film
- Logo Design needed for a new YouTube channel!
- Detroit's Premier Event Space Needs a Logo!
- SLOG the movie needs a designer to make our fundraising look good!
- [Stipop] Logo Contest: Build upon our original.
- Design a friendly, clean logo for an entertainment production company
- We need a modern Logo for CreateMusic.com
- Design a Logo for Slang - Creative Content Production and Strategy
- Headworks Productions
- Movie poster for a Disney / Pixar animated movie
- Show Poster For A Live Show
- Events Ticket Website Design Required
- cover for label releases
- Fake Life - TV Show Logo Illustration
- The new wave of music collaboration with Africa needs a logo
- Streamsluts , contemporary silk smooth streaming website logo design girl arching her back neon silk material back groun
- Wine Festival Logo
- World Flag
- Design a logo for a brand-new e-reading and social platform!
- Design a logo for an award winning sound company!
- Groovend und liebevolles Logo für Kultur des Friedens - Blue Planet Musikschule!
- the most atractive logo youtube chanal
- Design a cool CD Artwork/Design for our next album!
- Karmably needs a cute, stylish logo for mindfulness events
- Good Monday
- Design a new colorful logo for MPCA
- Create A Music And Video Related Logo For A New Course
- Illustration - Lifestyle of 5 women enjoying their lives
- The Blue Zoo Aquarium
- Create some illustrations for our gear rental website for young and upcoming filmmakers
- LOGO for a writing club
- Creative fun logo for internet tv
- Design a bold, old school logo for A-CAM
- Simple but meaningful logo for an author
- Create a fun logo for our Game Development company!
- Start up Record Label looking for a simplistic but powerful logo!
- High Great Media needs a powerful new logo
- Debut album artwork for Australian Rock band Dirtyfrank
- Design a creative logo for movement teacher
- a drummer needs a logo
- NukeSquad
- Stunning Movie Poster for "People Power" a (soon to be ;) !) Widely Publicized Documentary
- Design a new color scheme/design for our Car Phone Holder
- Future of Education Video Series needs a vibrant and creative logo!
- Rock Band - Blue Amplifier needs logo for t-shirts and merch
- 'West Side X West Side' Mixtape Album Art- West Side Story vs West Coast Rap
- North American recording artist needs logo to launch her career!
- Create a stellar top tier logo design for SKYBELLIS that raises the bar
- History Character Montage for History Fans
- Our dance studio needs a new image!
- Mountain Underground logo
- Campfire Series needs a logo that tells a story and makes you want to share yours.
- Advertising for an epic fantasy novella
- bold and inspiring logo for global inspirational movement
- Logo Design for Consumer Products Company - EZCO Products Inc
- A Geometric/minimalist logo for a DJ ;)
- Revolution Music Gear Logo
- Ticketing company needs a sleek logo
- Concert Band needs a new logo!
- Logo for an Adult Classical Musician Symphony - Fun and Creative
- Design a Geometric or Vintage Strawberry Logo for Production Company
- ThinkingCap Prize
- Desgin a brand for Film production company
- Oldenburger Kramermarkt Portal sucht neues Logo
- Project X: design an incredible product box
- CSL Pro
- Create logo and business card for Toronto/LA/Tokyo media company
- Design eye-catching poster for a contemporary NEW MUSICAL
- Trap Music Producer Logo
- ROCK N ROLL LOGO NEEDS AN UPDATE
- Design a film poster for British comedy science-fiction feature film pitch
- Boutique Music Studio
- Broadway-Style Theatre seeking abstract/contemporary logo
- Design an album cover for "Be Your Beast" - Dane Drewis' new EP.
- Landing Page for "BEACHER FUN" Mobile Application
- Inspire Writers with a Simple Logo for FictionCritiques.com
- Design a Luxurious Logo for Premium Music Service
- INTERVAL MUSIC PODCAST needs an inspiring logo for our artistic, driven listener community!
- Design a logo you will later see on headlines.
- Level Up Entertainment Center is looking for a brand image!
- Design New Amazing Logo For Recording Engineer
- A summer family and Kids event in Saudi Arabia
- GREAT A.P.E.
- Album cover for signed artist
- Schlicht aber bemerkenswert, weniger ist mehr
- Flyer , Prospekt für die Live-Band (Duo) Pastell
- Fun and Creative Logo for Kids Podcast
- Logo for National Theatre Company
- Design the first logo for” TUNEHEADZ “hip hop music producers something creative and eye catch
- Design Logo For New Recording Studio
- Tech Media Company needs a trendy, iconic logo to represent a new generation of Influencers
- Create an AWESOME artist Logo for "Cookies Before Dinner"
- Design a faith based logo for a series of books
- Junger Eventmanager benötigt ein aussagekräfiges Logo.
- § Modern, Minimal & Impactful Website for Award-Winning Composer §
- Wer kreiert mir ein Focusmonster ? Monster mit großen Augen+Maßband in der Hand.Bin offen für alles
- Design an eclectic Axe Throwing and Virtual Reality Logo
- Logo design for fun DJing duo who need some cool as well :)
- Create a logo for a cool music video production company
- PLEASE HELP need a great looking logo for film company
- Turn It Down Coalition logo - not asking you to turn it off
- In need for a powerful new logo for an up and coming music producer!!!!
- Design a show logo for a play called "The Time Machine" may lead to more work in the future
- Design an incredible logo for the dance industry
- Design a logo for a comedian
- Create beautiful Banner Ads that convert
- Vlogging Family needs Inspirational Branding
- I need a logo for a merchandise line ASAP!!
- Design for hot Nashville artist
- Modern Professional Banner Design Needed
- "Category Is..." needs a poppin' new logo that's everything! May the best designer.... WIN!
- Media Group Needs a Powerful New Logo for Top 40 Artist
- DanDin
- New SUB-Logo for Film technology company
- Diseña un logo para un marketplace de artistas musicales
- StatMan Sports Podcast looking for impactful Logo
- Events company for the music industry
- Design a fresh, inspiring logo for the Chewables blog
- happy humans watching movies on tablets
- Help create the vibe for Island Sand Entertainment
- STICKER TIME: Animation company seeks talented artist who enjoys long walks on beaches
- Indie Film Company Logo
- LOGO and MASCOT for new MUSIC LABEL "SEWT"
- "Post Holiday Blues" - Single Cover Artwork.
- Create an Impactful, Cool Logo for monkeycasino
- Sea-Blues 2019 Festival Poster
- Create timeless logo for premier Music Licensing company
- Design cover art for podcast of the ER’s most legendary stories
- Create a playful and Imaginative Design for a Children's Theatre Company
- Modern Logo for FiXT Labs Record Label
- Design a logo for Folk-pop/folk-rock band called PaperDolls
- Design A Logo For An Awesome New App!
- Born 2 Bounce Logo
- Progressive metal band needs a new logo to assert metal dominance
- Creative Logo for Singer Songwriter
- Creative, visual storytellers need a logo to set the tone!
- Business card, letterhead, envelope
- Award Winning Casino Needs A New RESORT Logo
- Edgy Production Company Seeks New Logo
- Exhibition logo for museum VR experience
- Create a logo for an Electronic Dance Music DJ and Pop Music Artist
- Kidsclub needs a brand new logo
- Dance school needs a fun vibrant logo
- 16 Ft Enclosed Trailer - Ashlee's Events
- A Midsummer Night's Dream Poster (Actors with Disabilities)
- Create a Futuristic, Edgy and High Tech Podcast Cover for new podcast with Richard A Clarke
- Logo for an art project (NSFW) - DROYC.com
- Beer here! Looking for a logo for a new company in the beer industry.
- Magical Logo for Booth Fairy
- Design Poster for Upcoming Play
- Design a modern logo for a event registration & ticketing app
- Logo for EDM DJ/Producer
- Logo y página de bouncyland
- A Clydesdale gets everyone to confess their secrets on his podcast.He’s a mix of fun and real talk
- Entertainment industry company needs new international logo
- !!! !!! !!!Demon Snake Beard!! !!! !!
- New YouTube "talk show" needs logo
- help break new filmmakers and writers - CinderQ
- Rock band - let the play begin
- My product will last 1,000 years or more. I need your brilliant logo to sell it...
- Pop/Alternative album cover design titled "Melancholy Love"
- Logo for up and coming LA-based post production company
- Create a classy logo for a new and classy event planning business.
- Unique Non-Profit Entertainment Organization Seeks Design For A Powerful Logo & Web Site
- Design the logo for Next Door Escape Room
- "Rock 95" - Classic Rock that REALLY Rocks FINAL DESIGNS
- Create a modern twist on 2 established art galleries coming together..
- Logo Design for Chance Kornuth!
- Colorado's Premier A Cappella Chorus Needs Updated logo
- Film company logo
- Design a logo for "Let Us Go" escape rooms
- Get a chance to design Rock band logo!
- Designst du das Logo der Band?
- Hipster logo needed for Fire & Bourbon and The Nature of All Things!
- New music producer needs enthralling script or art
- Design the most creative, sophisticated logo for CREATION.INK
- Merging two photo booth companies into one and need a fresh design
- New synthpop band needs logo and album cover
- Design the most trustful logo for Yasamimi.
- Christmas Album for Mark Schultz
- Entertainment & Tech Start-up Logo
- Watchbots, a new comedy podcast, needs a fun, bold logo
- Panoramics is looking for 360 ideas for a meaningfull logodesign
- Design a logo for a Movie VFX startup based in a wooden Shed/Cabin
- Make my bands logo to be seen my thousands of people with credit and publicity
- Logo für Website und Kleidung SebbelsWorld
- Digital Signage Graphics for Family Entertainment Center
- EliteOceanTours.com needs a classy, simple, catchy logo
- Create an eye-catching logo for a sharing economy company
- Design a modern record label logo for YahYah Music
- Logo for hardwood musical instrument stands
- I am looking for a sophisticated, classy vintage feel logo for my recently rebranded business
- Entertainment diving discoveries company need an awesome logo design
- Film Production Company needs Business Cards
- Audio entertainment brand needs a brilliant logo
- Create Fun/Powerful logo for Poker Enthusiasts Group
- Logo needed for Noise Curator, LLC
- NEW growing dance studio needs updated exciting design
- New reality series needs fun urban logo!
- BEHIND THE CURTAIN
- Re-design, or Fine-tune logo for large light show in the Bay Area!
- Mimi Re making music education accessible
- Design a logo that captures hearts for a children's wellness & culture center
- New logo with character design for Axe Throwing facility
- The V Show -A Virtual Wonderland is Looking for an Artist to help them design a logo is that YOU...?
- Les Magiciens ont besoin de vos secrets
- Create a LOGO for DEADLIME games
- Design cool logo for events app
- Sängerin wünscht sich ein organisches und an sie individuell angepasstes Logo
- New Party & Decorations Logo
- Logo for film company: The Wise Elm
- Design an Awesome Logo Package for "Video Anywhere"
- Submit - if you dare!!
- New entertainment and media investment and holding company needs a new powerful identity
- Upcoming Scandinavian DJ
- Logo for a Broadway musical
- Film Production company needs a powerful, timeless logo.
- Need a minimalistic symbol for a Film studio
- Jayc's Zauberkärtchen brauchen eine coole Verpackung!
- Luxurious Identity package for multi-purpose events hall
- Conjure a Music logo as Majestic as the Mountains
- Film Production Company in need of a powerful logo
- Logo Design For Mentalist / Illusionist
- Create a calm fire logo for Fire Loop company
- Design the first of several logos for The Troubadour - the premier Red Dirt Country Music Podcast!
- Modern Logo for FiXT Neon Record Label
- Improv Theater needs cool logo.
- Who can make similar art to the samples I provided ?
- EDM producer rebrand
- High Energy Reggae and Punk Band Needs Awesome Name Art
- Hip Hop Rnb event logo Design
- New York City Newly Signed Artist: Needs Designer Logo
- Design a story driven logo for The Box Escape Experience
- Design & Lay Out a Special Report for Magicians that Reveals the Secrets of Getting Booked
- Design logo for fun, modern neuroscience talk show called The Naked Brain...Expose Your Mind
- Design a logo for a Classic TV channel
- Design an intriguing and professional Logo for a Music Publishing Company with a fun name
- Design a logo for an amazing axe throwing range
- Lifestyle Blogger Logo Design
- Urban Cowboys Country Band Logo
- TV Reporter looking for a logo!
- Create an international image for our explosive video company, ASTORYO
- Design a professional business logo for a music production company.
- Create a cool logo for an explainer video channel
- Norwegian dance crew needs a fun youthful logo
- Create look for a documentary film company
- Illustrate an employee serving a customer at an elegant movie theater
- Looking for an album cover for an upcoming album release.
- Podcast Cover Art - Blow My Mind One Design at a Time (Ok that was Cheesy)